専制政権の台頭はインターネットのせい？

Japanese

hirooyamagata — 今日午後4:13

うーん、この本の翻訳は難しくはないけど、なかなか厳しいですね。序文には、こんな部分があります。

インターネットは、広大な違いを持つ人々を新しい協力関係で結びつけるための強力な技術です。残念ながら、最近では、これらの協力関係を阻害し、新たな分断の形を生み出すための強力なツールとしても証明されています。//

読者/翻訳者はこれに反発します。「えっ？？？？？」　あなたは世界中の専制政権の台頭をインターネットのせいにしているのですか？これはあまりにも広範囲な主張ではありませんか？それは教条的に聞こえ、これを少し緩和するのに苦労しています。

GlenWeyl — 今日午後4:18

多くの人がそう考えます

GlenWeyl — 今日午前8:46

これは広く共有されている見解であり、私たちはそれに共感しようとしています。これは本の戦略です。ルートテキストの変更をコミュニティに提案することができます。

nishio — 今日午前10:32

GlenWeyl — 今日午前10:35

理にかなっています。したがって、これらの部分を日本語訳で変更することも自由です。これが翻訳がコミュニティによって行われるべき理由です。直接的に行うのではなく、変更の提案を行うことができます。中国語では2-0を削除していますが、それは非常に西洋的な文脈に関連しているため、その文脈の外ではあまり関連がありません。南アジアでは関連するかもしれません

nishio

"group euthanasia"の話は不必要に反感を呼ぶので入れない方がいいかなと思う。一部の章をカットしたり圧縮したりしても良いという話はとても興味深い。山形さんの自由度が上がって日本の読者向けに良いものを作りやすくなるのではないか？

English

hirooyamagata — Today at 4:13 PM

Hmmm, translation of this book is not difficult, yet it's kind of tough. In the intro, there're these sections;

The internet is a powerful technology for tying people together in new collaborations across vast differences. Unfortunately, it has also recently proven to be a powerful tool for thwarting those collaborations and sowing new forms of division.//

It is no coincidence that democracy now finds itself at a low tide. Authoritarian regimes now command nearly half of the global GDP.

The reader/translator balks at this; WHAT???? You're blaming the internet for the rise of Authoritarian regimes around the world? Isn't this too much of a sweeping statement? It sounds dogmatic, and I struggle a bit to make this less so.

GlenWeyl — Today at 4:18 PM

Many people do

Awliiiza — Today at 1:19 AM

Thank you for voicing this.

GlenWeyl — Today at 8:46 AM

This is a widely held view and we are trying to show our empathy for it. it is a strategy in the book. You can suggest changes for the community to approve to the root text

nishio — Today at 10:32 AM

If there were surveys or other evidence showing that many people think this way, we could improve it by using that. "Widely held view" depend on the language. When Japanese hear discussions in Japan about democracy being in crisis, most Japanese people would associate it with "the majority of votes being controlled by the elderly due to the declining birthrate and aging population, prioritizing healthcare over investment in the future." There have been heated debates, with Yusuke Narita advocating for group euthanasia for the elderly.

GlenWeyl — Today at 10:35 AM

makes sense

so I htink you should feel free to change these parts in the Japanese translation

that's why the translation should be done by the community

not just directly

You might want to go as far as to change the whole structure some

in Chinese they are removing 2-0

nishio — Today at 10:59 AM

That's interesting> in Chinese they are removing 2-0

GlenWeyl — Today at 11:00 AM

2-0 is very West context

not really relevant outside that context

Perhaps relevant in South Asia

nishio — Today at 11:35 AM

I think it might be better not to include the discussion about "group euthanasia" as it could unnecessarily provoke backlash. The idea of cutting or condensing some sections is quite intriguing. With increased flexibility, Yamagata-san could more easily create content tailored to Japanese readers.